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Ako Tatra banka o zákazníka prišla

12.1.2007 Marián Zvara

So záujmom sme si prečítali článok bloggera Sme o jeho skúsenostiach s Tatra bankou.

Áno, ľudia robia chyby, aj neúmyselne. A banky vedia doslova oceniť chyby zákazníkov formou upomienok a sankcií. Jedna banka viac, iná menej. Podľa vlastných skúseností viem, že zákazníci Tatra banky musia za chyby tvrdo platiť. Azda aj viac, ako by očakávali. Zatiaľ čo Tatra banka účtuje za upomienku pri nezaplatení splátky úveru nekompromisných 750 Sk, zákazník VÚB “zarobí” pri prvom pochybení pri splácaní úveru klient 200 Sk, v SLSP 300 Sk.

Takúto “ústretovosť” voči zákazníkom v kombinácii s nerovnocenným postojom k chybám banky voči klientovi a čoraz agresívnejším predajom a marketingom môže naopak “oceniť” zákazník. Prechodom ku konkurencii.

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1. Karolko | 12.1.2007 o 13:27

Len tolko som xcel, ze na tom blogu je aj celkom zaujimava diskusia a prevladaju negativne skusenosti s TB. zeby najlepsi uz nesli za nimi?
2. rony | 12.1.2007 o 13:28

nejako sa tie clanky s nazvom *Ako XXX o zákazníka* prišli rozmohli
3. rony | 12.1.2007 o 13:35

Karolko, povedzme to tak, ze nespokojnych sa rata na desiatky, mozno stovky, mozno tisicky. Ale vzhladom na pocet vedenych uctov je to asi taka strata ako 5 percentny limit pri vojenskych cviceniach (smrt je povolena a pocita sa s nou). Nech by sa robila akakolvek “reklama”, tak vyznamnejsi narast nespokojencov nenastane Uz len preto, ze ked som si precital v eTrende odpoved Spurneho na podobny clanok sefredajktora, tak spomenul dve vyhody jeho banky voci konkurencii a tieto vyhody donedavna vyuzivali vsetky banky na Slovensku a ostatne doteraz (poplatok za zrusenie uctu a poplatok za prichodziu platbu).
A ak sa aj ozvu nejake hlasy o zmiernovani poplatkoveho babylonu, tak vyjde v tom istom mediu clanok o tom, ze poplatky v bankach su u nas najnizsie v porovnani s Europou. Najma ak ta nenapadne, ze sa porovnavaju ekvivalentne poplatky a nie globalny pohlad.

Mozes tak mat napriklad fixnu splatku hypouveru ale aj tak sa ti poplatkami zvysuje lebo platis to, ze prevedies peniaze na svoj ucet (napr. 5 korun), platis za to, ze ti strhnu z uctu splatku (napr. 3 koruny) a u hypo ku kazdej splatke este dalsi poplatok napr. (80 korun). A ked sa poplatky zvysia, tak sa ti zvysi aj tvoja “radoby fixna” splatka a to moze robit kludne niekolko percent.

Pritom u fixnej splatky je automaticky percento uveru vyssie a je zrejme, ze uz tam ma banka prijmy. Napriek tomu je ochotna si ich zvysovat prave poplatkami.

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4. Karolko | 12.1.2007 o 14:18

Ale ako sa hovori, aj negativna reklama je reklama a mozno TB vdaka takymto blogom ziska este viac zakaznikov
5. Svetlana Molnárová | 12.1.2007 o 14:47

Podľa mňa je TB šikovná banka. Jej kritika sa tým ďalej nesie, čím je úspešnejšia. Článok toho smegéra mi pripomína plač nad mliekom, ktoré si sám rozlial pod nohy.

R T F Zmluva!
or
R T F Obchodné podmienky!
6. Ruziklan | 12.1.2007 o 16:10

[5] R T F Zmluva je sice dobra rada (sam som vcera R jednu F zmluvu a kamos len krutil hlavou, ku comu vsetkemu sa zaviazal, ked som jej mu prelozil do ludskej reci, takze dnes nabehol do banky a dovybavovaval). Uplne s nou suhlasim.
Nechapem vsak uplne kritiku a pejorativne oznacenie autora (jednak nevim co to je a jednak me to urazi ), lebo jeho clanok ma este aj prvu cast, v ktorej to bola banka, kto mal maslo na hlave. Nic z banky okrem ospravedlnujuceho listu nevytlacil. A preco?
Lebo napr. [3]. Procesy su standardizovane. Urobil chybu zakaznik? Zaplati mastne za upomienku. Urobila chybu banka? Napise sa ospravedlnujuci list. To je ostatne navyse, o liste sa v zmluve urcite nepise. Ak sa zakaznik nastve a odide, su to povolene straty.
Zda sa vam na tomto scenari nieco nevyvazene? Ano, je. Zmluvy su konstruovane v sulade s vyjednavacou silou. Vyjednavacia sila banky je ovela vyssia ako vyjednavacia sila zakaznika. S tym sa v prostredi slabej konkurencie a lahostajnosti mnohych zakaznikov asi vela urobit neda. Ked sa neda uhryznut, tak aspon brechat, je na tom nieco zle? Cize v tom pripade je kritika na mieste. Aj odchod, ked to tak citi. Az na to, ze to inde asi v globale lepsie nebude… lebo to uz by tam vsetci racionalni jedinci boli davno nabehnuti.
7. Svetlana Molnárová | 12.1.2007 o 17:02

Ruziklan, smegér vzniklo spojením sme a bloger. Skratka, nič viac ani menej.

Škoda chalani, že nemám viac času sa tu týmto zaoberať, ale v článku spísané problémy mi nijako nepripomínajú maslo na hlave banky. Napadlo niekoho, že za to mohol môcť maďarský posterminál? Spoliehanie sa v zahraničí v nepreverených situáciách IBA na platobnú kartu svedčí skôr o niečom inom. Sama mám trasu Bratislava - Saloniki precestovanú tak sedem-osem ráz, zažili sme všeličo, ale ani raz som sa nemusela podobne rozhorčovať. O tom, či by šlo označiť nefungovanie karty na maďarskej pumpe za “maslo na hlave” na formálnom (zmluva) základe sa nemusíme hádam rozprávať, na rozdiel od nezaplatenia splátky úveru. Môžeme ľudsky chápať rozhorčenie, zamyslieť sa nad tým, či sa banka nemohla i inak rozhodnúť, ale tiež i nad tým, či nedá rozum nechávať si na účte, z ktoréého mi idú splátky rozumnú rezervu, ale myslím, že jediný kto má objektívne maslo na hlave, hoci sa nás nahnevaným ostrým perom snaží presvedčiť o niečom inom, je Marián Pavel.
8. Ruziklan | 13.1.2007 o 0:13

[7] K oznaceniu. Nahodou viem velmi dobre, ako vzniklo, myslel som, ze z pouzitia citacie bude jasne, ze sa jedna o humor. No dobre, nebol som vtipny. Neda sa jednoducho povedat “nic viac a nic menej”. Myslim, ze je vseobecne chapane pejorativne, pretoze ho kratko po spusteni SME blogov vymysleli “ti zvonku” na oznacenie tych, co sa SME “zapredali” za citanost, a tych, co si pod znackou SME grafomania… Mne osobne asociuje dost nechutnu substanciu… nemusim to hadam rozvadzat. Preto ak nie je vasim zamerom urazat, na vasom mieste by som ho nepouzival.

K maslu na hlave. Ano, napadlo mi, ze za to mohol moct madarsky POS terminal. Rovnako mi to napadlo aj v druhom pripade, v tom rakuskom. Ale zakaznik banky predsa neuzatvara zmluvu o sluzbach s madarskym prevadzkovatelom, ani rakuskym. Uzatvara ju s bankou a banka sa zavazuje k tomu, ze bude moct zaplatit aj v zahranici. Pravdepodobne pritom vyuziva outsourcing, pretoze nema zahranicnu autorizacnu siet pod kontrolou, ani samotny terminal. A s outsourcingom sa viazu rizika, najma operacne. Niekedy to proste nefunguje a na zaklade toho banka nesplni svoj zavazok. Vis maior je vis maior. Pokial by boli zmluvne pokuty a poplatky nastavene v zmluvach aj smerom od banky ku klientovi, banka by platila. Je mi jasne, ze to nikdy nebude, to som mal na mysli, ked som pisal o vyjednavacej pozicii. Ale faktom je, ze zakaznik nemohol zaplatit, aj ked mal…

Ako si si mohla vsimnut, nijako som nespochybnil, ze nezaplatenie uverovej splatky nacas bolo chybou a dodavam, ze velkou. Je to zakladna povinnost dlznika a darmo bude autor pisat, ze nedopatrenim… na to si treba davat pozor. To by som mozno aj zakrical: DAVAJTE SI POZOR NA TO, ABY STE VZDY PLATILI SPLATKY UVEROV NACAS. Neplatenie nacas ma aj ine dosledky ako poplatok za upomienku alebo sankcny urok. Napriklad budete mat cierny bod v registri dlznikov a to sa v buducnosti moze prejavit tym, ze uz nedostanete uver. A tak.
9. Tommek | 13.1.2007 o 12:15

ja som v TB spokojny…
10. rony | 13.1.2007 o 21:10

[4] už zostáva iba čakať, kedy si banky začnú prostredníctvom svojich mediálnych agentúr podobné články na zlepšenie PR
11. Svetlana Molnárová | 15.1.2007 o 12:00

[8] Ruziklan, no to som sa zasa dostala. Ten pojem som nevnímala ani tak pejoratívne, ako srandovne. Mne sa slovíčkové eskamotéstvo páči, možno sama raz vymyslím niečo lepšie, v každom prípade zatiaľ SME blogerom sorry.

[4] Rony, áno, my sme minulý týždeň napríklad mali objednávku od Dexie na PR stať o ich mizernom IB. Peknú sme napísali, nie?
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